On today's emotional episode of Girlboss Radio, Avery is joined by two of her friends: Jillian Harris and Sarah Nicole Landry for an unedited glimpse at the realities of running successful businesses by leveraging your online persona.

Jillian Harris got her start in restaurant design before becoming the first Canadian Bachelorette on reality TV. Sarah Nicole Landry blogged about motherhood as a divorced mom of three, before quitting her job in publishing to pursue content-creation full time. Today these women run multi-million dollar brands, employ staff and partner with the world's biggest companies. But there are downsides too: non-existent work-life-balance, time away from kids and husbands, near-constant online scrutiny of everything they do. "Sometimes I wonder why I'm still doing this," says Jillian Harris at one point in the convo.
This is not your typical influencer chat. But we think you'll be glad you tuned in.