It sounds counterintuitive, but it's true- and it comes from Nicole's reflections on Israel's resilience and wondering: what does the path to rebuilding look like? To unpack the question of Israel's future, Nicole is joined by author and foreign policy expert Dan Senor. Their conversation spans the startup landscape in Israel, the question of aid from the United States, how a country in an unstable region could rank so highly on happiness and yes, Nicole's realization that she wants to have kids.