How do you take audience desire and channel it into action? Aaron Orendorff is the marketer who knows all about affecting change.

Aaron is the Head of Marketing at Recart and former Editor-in-Chief at Spotify Plus.

Daniel and Aaron get straight into conversation discussing his conversion from pastor to marketer, what religion can teach about marketing, and why your job isn't to create desire - it's to channel it.

Plus you'll hear why organic traffic is the tide that lifts all ships and why Aaron believes you need to go slow to go fast when it comes to social.