On this episode, we're joined by the talented, bold, and very wise Sara Pion.

If you don't know Sara, you're not paying attention. But I'll fill you in: She's the powerhouse behind Drift's early conversational marketing playbooks and one of the smartest marketers coming up in the space.

Why's Sara such a stand-out?

For starters, she's got street cred: From making the switch to marketing from early days in customer advocacy at Drift to content and community at Alyce, Sara is relentless in her pursuit of personal and professional growth. Her approach -- as well as her proven track record -- gives her a solid platform from which to advise the next generation of marketers (and just about everyone else) on owning your career and why the road not taken doesn't really matter.