In our 20th episode, Gil talks category creation with two leaders from the customer experience performance and sports media categories.

Panelists for this episode include Macario Namie, CMO of ASAPP and leader behind the customer experience performance category, and Bryan Goodwin, President of TorchPro and leader behind the digital sports media category.

You'll walk away from this episode with an understanding of customer research, thought leadership, and fundraising.

BONUS! Macario explains why patience is the best quality a leader can have.